We're actually in a house divided but we're doing this because we see the winds of change but we're still catching up. Yeah. You saw a black man named George Floyd get lynched on camera and you are now ashamed. And you know, I would even appreciate a statement that said that. Dan Pashman: Well, that is a great list and it has made me very, very thirsty. So the headline is, “Plantation Rum Announces Brand Name to Evolve”, meaning the brand name is going to evolve. Every country, every culture, every religion, every ethnic group, every tribe has some stories that get passed down from one generation to the next. It's just like I want you to change this because it makes me feel bad when I look at it. Plantation and the areas surrounding it are a diverse melting pot th Anything above. It’s not as hard as it sounds! In Plantation, they say the grass is greener, but in the city of beautifully landscaped homes, some say the name needs a reset. Got it. You can infuse the rum with ginger, which will also add a little more bite to it. The last black bartender who got a platform to share their recipes in the book was Tom Bulluck. , or if it’s been a while, here’s a brief recap. A push by the website Eventing Nation to change its name has led to Plantation Fields Equestrian Events losing the lease of the property. Stop. You know, speaking more broadly, I've seen plantation condominiums, I've seen vacation destinations with plantation in the title. That's the reason. So it’s little. What are people who use the word "plantation" in names of dishes like Plantation Chicken and Plantation Rice trying to evoke? I mean look, you don’t have to ask twice. As I say in the episode, until I read. In the wake of the Black Lives Matter Movement and the protests around the country I believe this is the perfect time for the city to align itself on the right side of history by casting away a name that does it no justice. “It is about how Black people and people from other countries all relate to each other.”. It was carried out by black women. In his book The Ideal Bartender came out more than a century ago. In contrast, Bigelow’s website makes no reference to race or history or current events, it simply says, “We are excited to share that we changed the name of our tea to Perfectly Mint, which better reflects the perfect blend of American grown mint and tea.” That was their original announcement. September 16, 2020. FORT LAUDERDALE (CBSMiami) – A Plantation resident wants the city to change its name. A name change … The rum itself will not change. Thanks. I mean, I just want the story to reflect what actually happened. Change hostname in Debian. Dan Pashman: One of the things that you said in our original plantation episode that really stuck with me was, you know, as I was sort of setting out on my quest to talk to white people about why they're using the word "plantation", you said that you're less interested in the conversation around, "Stop using the word," and more interested in the conversation of, "Why does this word 'plantation' keep popping up?". That's where you would go to an agricole. When they were in their so called “rightful” place, above black people. Let me put some essential oil. And over cocktails made with Plantation Rum, you said…. It's as in petit. Yeah. What are your thoughts on this announcement? It's not for foodies, it's for eaters, I'm Osayi Endolyn. So after the break, we’re talking with Shannon Mustipher. Are they seeing things any differently now? How do we hold both of those truths at the same time? But in contrast to Plantation Rum, Plantation Rum, his press release pretty clearly says, "The dialog on racial equality continues globally." And the reason for that is that you really just want that the oils more than you want the juice inflection there. You just happen to have caught me in a existential moment. Last year the name Plantation Mint was changed to Perfectly Mint. We use only the finest mountain-grown black tea blended with natural spearmint. What are you being responsible for? You are. Osayi Endolyn: Yes. Which literally means that everyone makes it according to their own taste. Tell us about those. A couple of notes.You heard Shannon and Osayi mention the story of Nearest Green, the enslaved man who taught Jack Daniel how to make whiskey. So I'm always happy to help with that. If you can get Cuban rum, by all means, go with it. Shannon, what makes a great ti' punch? it says , "The country has been harvesting sugar cane since the 16th century." Or alternatively, you would pick out an un-aged pot-stilled Jamaica rum. And I'm Dan Pashman. I tasted something like two hundred and fifty rums that come up with the back bar 50. Shannon Mustipher: I understand why they would want to show their effort to understand why is important to be culturally sensitive and respectful. “We can’t ignore the image conjured by the word ‘plantation,’” Gov. In the weeks since the George Floyd protests began, neighborhoods and subdivisions across the country have removed the word “plantation” from their names. They still might have a stubbed toe. Have you ever wanted to change the login screen on your Linux PC but were unsure about how to do it? and all these other caricatures of the south were about, was about was northern capitalism and wanting to—they knew they could make a buck off of it. And we weren't the only ones talking about this. And in this conversation, also, some really incredible things emerged, too, like rum. Done. Like, we understand now how troubling and disrespectful and painful this is. Got it. "Plantation" really had next to nothing to do with glorifying that past. Like, if you have harmed someone, you can say you're sorry but that doesn't mean that the person you've harmed is over it. “It often came up as a topic between me and friends, and we all had the same feeling that it’s not a welcoming name,” Mr. Auguste, 27, said. It was a big component of a lot of export blends. While we do recommend listening to that one first, if you can, you'll still appreciate this one without it. Shannon Mustipher: I tasted something like two hundred and fifty rums that come up with the back bar 50. Well, who is doing the harvesting? Important new in the world of The Sporkful. What should i do change my wifi interface name to wlan0 from wlxe84e062e27e2 when in managed mode and wlan0mon when in monitor mode. And follow her on Instagram. So I was curious if Shannon felt the same way about Plantation Rum. So I'm torn about myself and stuff that. Dharyl Auguste outside Plantation City Hall on Thursday. Our thanks to Shannon Mustipher, her book is, , get it now wherever books are sold. Osayi Endolyn: So Dan, you remember from our first conversation about the brand, Plantation Rum. I should say real quick, Alexandre is French. That's always been my philosophy. But what if things got to the point where people demanded that Jack Daniel's changed the name to reflect that truth? You saw a black man named George Floyd get lynched on camera and you are now ashamed. So the question became, why are white people in food using this word? Peter Kristian, general manager of the Hilton Head Plantation property owners’ association, did not respond to requests for comment on Friday. And as artists, we got to be able to talk all of it at once because it always happens at once. Have they changed their minds? Shannon, what makes a great ti' punch? Osayi Endolyn: I guess for me, it was more about this perception I had that this was kind of overtly playing on something that I didn't quite—I wasn't clear at the time when I first saw the bottle, like whether or not I was reading the signification right. “This isn’t just about Black people,” the mayor said in an interview on Tuesday. What are they trying to evoke? I can't listen to this anymore. Dan Pashman: Make sure you check out last week’s show, where I talk with writer Kiese Laymon. And on each one of these pages, first of all, there's pictures of all the places. Dan Pashman: Alright Osayi, it was a great time, as always. Osayi Endolyn: Sure. In Hilton Head, because the developments and resorts are privately owned, the onus is on the owners and investors to make any name changes. Osayi Endolyn: Yeah. And just to be clear, like ti' punch is not T-E-A. Perfectly Mint® Tea (Formerly Plantation Mint) Case of 6 boxes - total of 120 teabags. Alright well congratulations. Maybe we should just like record thing straight to tape here because we're dealing with some news. And so we react negatively to having those stories questioned, even when they need to be questioned. No. They wouldn't talk to us. Osayi Endolyn:  But yes, that was the short answer. And now they have begrudgingly and with as little fanfare and discussion as possible made the change. That episode came out last fall, we re-posted it a few weeks ago because it won a Webby Award, and because it seemed especially relevant to discussions going on in the country. Barbados was one of the first islands to combine two techniques of distillation in their blends. Three quarters ounce of grenadine, half an ounce of fresh lime juice and two dashes of Angostura bitters. We’re Proud of Our Recipe. Whether or not you like it, there is brand recognition and association that they have a fantastic product. The new name was selected in a vote by the not-for-profit continuing care retirement community’s residents and staff. Get out of here. I mean, I would love to live in a world where we don't romanticize what plantation means and I want people to be conscious of when they choose to use that word because of that. I mean, it wasn't jarring for me in that, you know, it's a fact that sugar cane plantations are where the first examples around were produce. Dharyl Auguste started a petition on change.org to garner support. That really helps out our show and ensure that you won't miss future episodes. That's not to defend all the myths. Let me tell you. All right. A year ago, they wouldn't talk to us. It's two ounces of Jamaica rum. To change the friendly name of a boot entry in a Boot.ini file, you can use Bootcfg or edit the Boot.ini file in Notepad. As it happens we’re prepping a show on that story. We have deluded ourselves.”, ‘Not a Welcoming Name’: Calls to Drop ‘Plantation’ Gain Steam Nationwide. If you like things that are a little on the funkier side and you want to experience like those wild raw floral notes are like a big fruit nose. I just want to read a bit from the press release just to give folks an idea of the announcement. So I like the ability that I could, like, tweak the drink to my liking. sab… And, specifically, if she talked about the name with guests. Osayi Endolyn: Yeah. Shannon Mustipher: If not more, because if all you're asking for is changing the name in some kind of superficial I would say lip service sort of thing, you're not actually asking for what I think would be of a meaningful change. Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben's, and Mrs. Butterworth's are all planning branding changes; Land O’Lakes and Bigelow Tea already had similar changes in the works before George Floyd’s killing. eight year. I got a call from Alexandre Gabriel, the Master Blender at Plantation Rum, and he is the head of Maison Ferrand, their parent company. Shannon Mustipher: Yeah. And then for, let's say, a Spanish style rum I tend toward Panamanian rums because they tend to take the lead from old Cuban styles of production. The tone of the statement annoys me. You know, typically you make your way lime goslings and ginger beer. Plantation Rum Is Changing Its Name. He's a very defining figure in rum. lifeless: how long before we make a first release? But, you know, if he has a complex logistical road ahead. And you got a book deal also! I like you seizing on the "As you know..." part. Before we got to the topic of plantation rum, we asked Shannon what we should be drinking now that it’s summer. It would be so refreshing for a brand to speak authentically to where they actually are and now where they think it is politically advantageous for them to appear to be. Right? Right? I think I would have just liked to see something a bit more empathetic and holistic. And that's on Sunday, July 19th. Important new in the world of. And now there are new developments to share, and to discuss. Or are we telling the truth? I always love chatting with Shannon, I wish I was having her Painkiller right now. Shannon Mustipher: I'll use a whiskey example. We featured Plantation Rum in our 2019 episode, “When White People Say Plantation,” because the spirit’s name inspired food writer Osayi Endolyn to delve into what’s behind “plantation” branding. that’s what you see. They wouldn't talk to us. “We have long recognized the controversy that surrounds the word ‘plantation’ and are sensitive to how it is commonly understood,” said Steve Messer, executive director of Matthews Glen. I'm also creating my own shopping list right now just to re-up. And so now, with the conversations happening in the country, Aunt Jemima has been retired. And then also, this got less attention, but Bigelow also owns the. And so in the case of a Guyana rum, that would be something bottled by Ed Hamilton. It's no longer  Plantation Mint. It’s demoralizing. Feeling like the market needed a refreshing mint tea, Eunice Bigelow took to the kitchen to create one of her first blends for the company. And so I almost wonder if it would be better if they continued to call it "Plantation", but instead showed us the faces of the people who historically made this product and who make it today. But what really matters is changing the story we tell. Shannon Mustipher: No. You are @OsayiEndolyn. A Change.org petition started June 7, 2020 urges Beaufort County leaders to demand the word “plantation” be taken off gated community signs and marketing materials. Like the idea like the narrative is about the bushes? So what we hear in that plantation episode is that this idyllic vision of the Antebellum period is not an accident. Dan Pashman: So the question became, why are white people in food using this word? And I noticed that the Plantation Rums were among the better crafted examples. Just own it. Dan Pashman: In what few ways? Dan Pashman: So good to hang out with you. They still might have a stubbed toe. One of the things that you said in our original plantation episode that really stuck with me was, you know, as I was sort of setting out on my quest to talk to white people about why they're using the word "plantation", you said that you're less interested in the conversation around, "Stop using the word," and more interested in the conversation of, "Why does this word 'plantation' keep popping up?". Oh, Jesus. It's not like a Control-Z on the keyboard, right? I’m excited to be looking at American restaurants through the lens of...,surprise! Dan Pashman: I think you were on your second Painkiller when I was still on my first daiquiri. And what does the answer say about whiteness in America? And please make sure you subscribe to our show in. And I have to say, having that kind of conversation with a white man and to be so thoughtfully listened to, it was refreshing for me. Don Poncho formerly worked in Cuba in a government position, in their rum industry. It was a look at the use of the word "plantation" in food branding. So all of that is kind of wrapped up in the different considerations that Alexandre is making and in my interpretation of this step. ‎Plus a rum expert’s summer cocktail tips...The word “plantation” has been used in food branding to conjure images of a romanticized, whitewashed American South. Tell us about those. Listen to this line from the website of the history section of the Charleston Tea Garden's website. CLIP (KAREN COX): What Aunt Jemima and all these other caricatures of the south were about, was about was northern capitalism and wanting to—they knew they could make a buck off of it. I’m from New Jersey. And it's just kind of like a superficial glossing over. Uncle Nearest is a project that was started maybe three or four years ago to draw attention to the fact that the formula for Jack Daniel's was in fact created by an African-American gentleman and that he and his family oversight a distillery for at least three generations. So I was curious if Shannon felt the same way about Plantation Rum. Ok, back to the show. Beaufort County, which includes the island of Hilton Head, was founded in 1711. Not interested. That for me is the immediate connection. Osayi Endolyn: Definitely, I have seen recipes online for plantation chicken, plantation peanut crunch. I love the Dark and Stormy, but sometimes I'm just—maybe I've been having a lot of Dark and Stormies. There were 75 films in the 1930s that were set on the plantation or in the plantation south. But Lynn Stoner, the mayor of Plantation, does not necessarily share this opinion. I want something similar, but I want something different. She sort of agreed with that. You can swap out the rums or add maybe a pot-still Jamaica rum to the goslings and that's going to give it a little more bite because the pot steel rums tend to have some cinnamon and clove notes. Show. I felt some sadness that it takes so much to get what feels to be such symbolic gestures. It’s about removing the mythology and being responsible for the real history. And so I support the decision to change it, but I just think that at least within the spirits industry we should be asking ourselves, how far do we let this go? And you have a couple of online events coming up very soon that folks all over the country and the world can participate in. The word has long been used in the food industry to conjure images of a romanticized, whitewashed American South, even though it has no specific culinary meaning (think “Plantation Mint Tea” or “Plantation Chicken”). And then if you go to a Spanish style rum, and this is referencing rums from any former colonies of Spain or from a Latin culture, they might be sweeter, rounder, creamier on one hand and more suitable for sipping. One was with a black rum maker in the Caribbean. A new logo celebrates 2020 as the 400th anniversary of the Pilgrims’ arrival. That for me is the immediate connection. Gina Raimondo of Rhode Island said last month. It's ti' with an apostrophe. Well, obviously, I understand we shouldn't be romanticizing or erasing history but by simply removing the word "plantation" without fleshing out the story, it just pushes it more towards a story—a thing that nobody talks about. . When the episode was coming out, we asked them for comment. Plimoth Plantation will be changing their name by the end of the year as a branding change has already begun. And he wanted to tell me in advance of the press release that this change was happening. It’s a real loss. Like the idea like the narrative is about the bushes? Go ahead, you can do it right now while you're listening. Osayi Endolyn: Yeah. On the other hand, I'm not the world's greatest bartender. Osayi Endolyn: I wouldn't say it's superficial, but it's just symbolic. Osayi Endolyn: Yes, this is very exciting. So if you can help her out, please, that’d be great. Now, one of the things that listeners had requested was they wanted to hear from the white people that they heard in the. The name aside for a minute, I love their range of products. Dan Pashman: Shifting gears from Plantation Rum, Osayi, one of the brands that we talked a lot about in our previous episode was Bigelow Tea. Right? And and it's only when it gets very hot that I tend to switch to Dark and Stormies. You weren't seeing a lot of rums that were crafted in a more traditional style or a crafted with an eye to really showcase the place that it was sourced from specifically, which is at the foundation of the plantation project. We pass these stories down to tell the next generation who we are. For too long has the City of Plantation allowed for its name to be a symbol of its racist confederate past. Get out of here. And marketers from New York to Hollywood see an opportunity. Or in a case of like the wider clear rums, and I mean very dry and clean and light, the third one is a rum agricole that's made from fresh press juice. What journey? Well, who is doing the harvesting? has been renamed and we’ll get into that in a little bit. In Plantation, Fla., Mr. Auguste has two options to get the city to change its name. As history professor Karen Cox told us, all these black people north make white people in the north very nervous. Yeah. Dan Pashman: And so now Shannon we have the news as of just about two weeks ago, Plantation Rum announced that they're going to evolve the name. I met her a couple of years ago a conference called, Resistance Served and I wrote about her in an, To me, she really represents the long history of black bartenders in the U.S., who haven't gotten much credit for their ingenuity and their craft. So Dan, you remember from our first conversation about the brand, Plantation Rum. Is that still the appropriate title? So if you want to twist it up a little bit, but keep it simple for yourself, you can make ginger syrup. A Guyana rum is really important because that was one of more iconic sows that got more play on the global stage in their early 1800s. Shannon is the first working African American bartender. Now, we did reach out to Bigelow, they declined to be interviewed for this episode, but they did send us a statement which reads, "We have agreed for a long time that we need to all recognize and respect the fact our history clearly shows why the name 'plantation' needed to change. My name is Lyla, I am 10 years old and I have been trying to have the name of my street (Plantation Road) changed for the past year. When it was time for Mr. Auguste to attend middle school, he and his parents relocated again, this time to Plantation, Fla. Mr. Auguste welcomed the move, he said, because it was easier for him to see his friends and access public transportation. The rum itself will not change. Well, it's so funny. It's not hard to tell the truth. But it's like you can't change what actually took place. Emma had made the point when we talked. Dan Pashman: Our thanks to Shannon Mustipher, her book is TIKI: Modern Tropical Cocktails, get it now wherever books are sold. Minty goodness can wake you up in the morning with a nice mug of Bigelow Green Tea with Mint. And I couldn’t fathom why anybody would want their rum to be associated with that. Dan Pashman: Yeah. In contrast, Bigelow’s website makes no reference to race or history or current events, it simply says, “We are excited to share that we changed the name of our tea to Perfectly Mint, which better reflects the perfect blend of American grown mint and tea.” That was their original announcement. The name change is having a soft launch, due to COVID 19. And if you're enjoying our show, please take minute right now to subscribe in Apple podcasts. There's a book in the works. Rhode Island Gov. I also think what we do behind that gesture matters just as much. Change Linux Partition Disk Label Names. Why did Bigelow change the name of its, Charleston Tea Plantation to Charleston Tea Garden. Go ahead, you can do it right now while you're listening. 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